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Double Debate! Seifer's Flashback and Squall/Seifer V.S. Cloud

Ok so I have two debate topics I would love to discuss with all of you today. These are just a few out of the many that I have in mind. Ok so with that said, let's get to it. First one is about Final Fantasy 8. Do you any of you remember the part in the game when Squall and company visited Matron's orphanage? Was it disc two? Anyway, while in the basketball court they experience a flashback which leads them to remember who Matron is and that she is indeed the Sorceress. Ok so here is where things get a little tricky.

The next time they run into Seifer (who was also in the flashback) he talks to the entire group as if he experienced that very same flashback, possibly at the same time as the others. I say this because in disc 2 he refers to the Sorceress as Matron, obviously indicating he knows who she really is. I was able to find the quotes too. "Did you guys come to fight Matron? After all she's done for us?" What I find interesting is that in disc one he doesn't refer to the Sorceress as Matron. So here is my first question. In your opinion, did Seifer know who Edea was by the end of first disc? Or did he find out in disc 2 by experiencing the same flashback as the others, or by some other method?

My second question is pretty direct. If Seifer and Squall teamed up to battle Final Fantasy 7's Cloud, who do you think would win? This question is totally based on one's imagination. lol I'm just curious to see the feedback. But my personal opinion, I'd say Seifer and Squall would win. I'll admit that Cloud's 3 vs 1 skills was very impressive. But I don't recall seeing any limit breaks from Kadaj, and his gang. Me personally, Seifer and Squall might overwhelm Cloud with pure limit breaks. Although, the teamwork between Squall and Seifer could be complicated because I can see Seifer trying to do it all by himself and quite possibly endanger his partner. Also, one can even argue that Squall might spend most of the match trying to defend/protect Seifer afer making reckless/arrogant decisions. Neverhteless, I'd still consider the two teens the victors in this melee match up.

So those are my two debate topics. I hope you like them and I look forward to your point of views. XD

Comments

My understanding of that point in the game was that Seifer had a flashback too, maybe not exactly the same thing, but he definitely knew and it seemed to me he just remembered. Being that Galbadia was lying in wait close to the Lighthouse Orphanage, I'm assuming either that triggered the memory, or maybe even Edea/Ultimecia to get that little extra bit of obedience out of him.

Squall and Seifer against Cloud? That's tricky for me. I'm a Squall girl, through and through, I'd take him over Cloud any day, but I'm almost thinking Cloud would win. I don't even know why. I'm thinking 'cause he's fought Sephiroth a couple times and usually comes out on top and one could argue that Sephiroth is more challenging than Ultimecia (I know I found that to be true in the games...) Then where brute strength is concerned, Cloud definitely has the advantage.
Squall and Seifer are trained as mercenaries and have that fighting background, but Cloud too was part of Shin-Ra's military (maybe not SOLDIER but he still had some battle training).
I think perhaps through sheer skill Squall and Seifer could beat Cloud though. For whatever reason, I feel they would have the ability to drop whatever issues they have with one another and work together to beat a common foe. They both have great skill with the gunblade, and that too would give them an advantage over Cloud...

I think all that to say I'm rather undecided.

Limit Break theory! ^^; I think (but could be wrong) that Squall's Renzokuken LionHeart does roughly the same amount of damage as Cloud's Omnislash. Add on to that Seifer's Fire Cross Blood Fest... the boys would win.

So yeah, okay. Seifer and Squall would beat Cloud. ^^
Rufus - AC

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